Saturday, July 24, 2004

Career Choices

This is a log of a chat session with Rameez some time back.... I thought I might post it here coz it had some of my thoughts that I wanted to "blog" but was too lazy to do a write up again....

Rameez at 10:44:58 am
acha bhai yeh bataian kay ICS karanay kay bad kya kya lines hoti hain?

Affan at 10:46:00 am
yaar hamarey zamaney mein ICS nahin thha.. plain Inter thha. pre-med ya pre-engg
Affan at 10:46:13 am
what do you want to do?

Rameez at 10:50:18 am
i got 62.70% in matric aur ab majboran ICS karana pard raha hai
Rameez at 10:50:31 am
(

Affan at 10:50:35 am
ICS = ?

Rameez at 10:52:22 am
ics= INTER IN COMPUTER SCIENCES

Affan at 10:52:50 am
well do you really want to do computers?

Rameez at 10:54:33 am
I want to become a boot

Affan at 10:54:42 am
boot?
Affan at 10:55:00 am
bhoot

Rameez at 10:55:07 am
army officer

Affan at 10:55:18 am
cool !!
Affan at 10:55:35 am
well in that case you can study anthing.....

Rameez at 10:57:34 am
ARMY then SSG then ATF
Affan at 10:57:59 am
what is ATF?
Affan at 10:58:07 am
Air Traffic Control?
Affan at 10:58:16 am
oh that is aTC

Rameez at 10:58:25 am
DO U KNOW ANY THING?

Affan at 10:58:30 am
no

Rameez at 10:58:52 am
ANTI TERRORIST FORCE
Rameez at 10:59:07 am

Affan at 10:59:19 am
wow

Rameez at 11:01:17 am
to agar select na hua to?/

Affan at 11:01:31 am
that is a good question
Affan at 11:01:56 am
well then do you have anything else in mind?
Affan at 11:02:16 am
I am not too eager to give you a suggestion because I think that is a very bad thing to do
Affan at 11:02:42 am
a person should choose his own path/interest/career
Affan at 11:03:05 am
if he goes on to a path he does not like then he doesnt enjoy life/career etc
Affan at 11:03:14 am
and that is crap
Affan at 11:03:47 am
I can tell you MBA, or Engg, or Doctor etc. but it is you who knows what you like
Affan at 11:04:09 am
maybe you want to become a photographer or poet, or a architect
Affan at 11:04:15 am
or an actor
Affan at 11:04:55 am
well I think the person should go the way he likes otherwise he doesnt enjoy what he does and then life starts to suck

Rameez at 11:05:06 am
ARMY ARMY AND ONLY ARMY

Affan at 11:05:13 am
well thats good

Rameez at 11:05:17 am
>
Rameez at 11:07:44 am
CANi do any thing on the web

Affan at 11:08:07 am
of course you can do anything on the web...

Rameez at 11:08:44 am
for example

Affan at 11:08:53 am
what are you interested in? designing pages? graphics... or writing software that runs the applications like Yahoo mail and Google etc.
Affan at 11:09:19 am
or maybe managing the infrastructure/machines/servers that host the wesites
Affan at 11:09:25 am
websites*
Affan at 11:09:54 am
or maybe you have a business idea that is related to an online businesss
Affan at 11:10:13 am
you don't have to be a techie to do stuff on the web
Affan at 11:10:29 am
but you can be one if you want to

Rameez at 11:10:36 am
can i do something for the millitary

Affan at 11:11:28 am
I am not too sure about that..... do you have any idea what you would want to do
Affan at 11:11:38 am
any project you have in mind
Affan at 11:12:01 am
how could the military benefit from the web

Rameez at 11:12:24 am
make official websites

Affan at 11:13:04 am
who would use that website and what kind f information would it provide
Affan at 11:13:29 am
I mean if its just a hobby-ist website I don't think you can make a career out of it
Affan at 11:14:06 am
but then you can talk to the ppl in charge of such stuff .. maybe they have a few ideas in mind and can use some help

Rameez at 11:14:46 am
or hack other systems for them

Affan at 11:15:22 am
taht requires a high level of knowledge and expertise
Affan at 11:15:34 am
also you wont find ppl advertising these kind of jobs
Affan at 11:15:59 am
so you will have to find out if/how to get there
Affan at 11:16:27 am
I think you have to be an Army person for that but maybe not
Affan at 11:16:51 am
hacking, or rather cracking, is a very very tough job
Affan at 11:17:22 am
specially related to confidential/high-risk areas like military installations etc.

Rameez at 11:18:29 am
do army has something to do with compus

Affan at 11:19:46 am
of course.. if you remember Alpha Bravo Charlie.. Captain Abdullah was in the computer place
Affan at 11:20:03 am
after he got injured

Rameez at 11:20:21 am
what was his job

Affan at 11:20:27 am
pata nahin yaar
Affan at 11:20:36 am
a couple of my friends work for PAF
Affan at 11:20:53 am
they design flight simulators etc and other softwares for PAF

Rameez at 11:28:44 am
kahan

Affan at 11:29:03 am
you mean where they work?

Rameez at 11:29:15 am
yap

Affan at 11:29:37 am
well they are sometimes in Karachi/Islamabad/Peshawer and also had to go to Sargodha too

Rameez at 11:31:26 am
ill look forward to it

Affan at 11:33:42 am
but I think you have to have a computer degree for that

Rameez at 11:34:11 am
from where

Affan at 11:34:29 am
I dunno .. there are many good universities there
Affan at 11:34:45 am
NUST, FAST, GIK, etc.

Rameez at 11:35:36 am
aur sunaain

Affan at 11:35:41 am
I think the problem with kids in our society is that they don't have an interest as such
Affan at 11:35:56 am
I mean they don't get too much exposure to stuff to develop an interest
Affan at 11:36:42 am
I mean maybe you mite end up liking Painting as a career, or maybe agriculture/farming
Affan at 11:37:06 am
we develop our interests very late in life

Rameez at 11:37:34 am
i have intrest in adventues

Affan at 11:37:36 am
and also our education system is not too flexible to allow us to change/adopt a career we like
Affan at 11:37:59 am
yes so maybe you can become a tour guide for ppl coming to K-2
Affan at 11:38:22 am
there are many expeditions planned for K-2 this year (since this is the golden jubilee)
Affan at 11:38:53 am
maybe you can start a adventure/scouting/training school or something
Affan at 11:39:28 am
I mean its all about choice... an I think one should do wat he likes
Affan at 11:39:42 am
not whats good in the market.. or has more "demand"
Affan at 11:40:33 am
maybe you want to become a teacher.. but no 1 will advise to to be a teacher coz "koi future nahin hai"
Affan at 11:40:49 am
jsut an example